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at -- among democrats, especially, further to the left, since the election, their feeling has been, president obama won, we will not take this out of seniors, we will not take it out of medicare, we will not take it out of social security. no cuts, and those things and that position has hardened, i think on the left in the past couple of mo couple of months. >> chris: you are a believer, kirsten, that obama won and, gets the tax rate increases. on the other hand, you do have another deadline coming in about two months, according to timothy geithner and that is the increase in the debt ceiling and at that point, it would seem to me the republicans hold most of the leverage, because they can at least threaten to send the country into default unless there are serious and main spending cuts. at that point does this obama victory perhaps look a little different? >> well, i mean, i think the question is, are they really going to want to do what they did last time with the debt ceiling, which ultimately caused us to have a downgrade of our economy. do they want to do that again? i think it is a bit
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